{"id":161,"date":"2003-01-15T21:41:30-05:00","date_gmt":"2003-01-16T05:41:30+00:00","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/peterjanes.ca\/wordpress\/?p=161"},"modified":"2003-01-15T21:41:30-05:00","modified_gmt":"2003-01-16T05:41:30+00:00","slug":"xhtml2","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/peterjanes.ca\/blog\/2003\/01\/15\/xhtml2\/","title":{"rendered":"XHTML2"},"content":{"rendered":"<div class='e-content'><p>Not that anyone cares what I think, but I had a lot of the same thoughts as <a title=\"And on the Eighth Day, He brought forth Progress. And it was good.\" href=\"http:\/\/ln.hixie.ch\/?start=1042630901&amp;count=1\"><cite>Ian Hickson<\/cite><\/a> and <a title=\"&ldquo;some of this stuff [is] just really freaking cool&rdquo;\" href=\"http:\/\/www.yarinareth.net\/caveatlector\/archive\/week_2003_01_12.html#e001223\"><cite>Dorothea Salo<\/cite><\/a> when I read the first <a href=\"http:\/\/www.w3.org\/TR\/xhtml2\/\">draft XHTML 2.0 specification<\/a> a few months ago.  <a title=\"Agony and Ivory\" href=\"http:\/\/www.meyerweb.com\/eric\/thoughts\/2003a.html#t20030114\"><cite>Eric Meyer<\/cite><\/a> is <q cite=\"http:\/\/www.meyerweb.com\/eric\/thoughts\/2003a.html#t20030114\">broadly sympathetic<\/q> with <a title=\"Semantic obsolescence\" href=\"http:\/\/diveintomark.org\/archives\/2003\/01\/13.html#semantic_obsolescence\">several<\/a> <a title=\"Tantek &#199;elik: XHTML 2.0 considered harmful\" href=\"http:\/\/lists.w3.org\/Archives\/Public\/www-html\/2003Jan\/0123.html\">of its<\/a> <a title=\"Daniel Glazman: comments on 2002-12-12 XHTML 2.0 WD\" href=\"http:\/\/lists.w3.org\/Archives\/Public\/www-html\/2002Dec\/0113.html\">detractors<\/a> (and I&#8217;ve seen even <a title=\"XHTML 2 and all that\" href=\"http:\/\/www.zeldman.com\/daily\/0103b.shtml#skyfall\">more<\/a>), but points out that you can <q cite=\"http:\/\/www.meyerweb.com\/eric\/thoughts\/2003a.html#t20030114\">use XSLT to bridge the gap between old browsers and new ones<\/q>.  In fact, that&#8217;s just what <a title=\"Display XHTML 2.0 with XSL\" href=\"http:\/\/w3future.com\/weblog\/2002\/08\/09.html\"><cite>Sjoerd Visscher<\/cite><\/a> did five months ago, after <a title=\"A working XHTML 2.0 page\" href=\"http:\/\/w3future.com\/weblog\/2002\/08\/07.html\">showing<\/a> that current browsers can already deal with a lot of XHTML2 through stylesheets and <q cite=\"http:\/\/ln.hixie.ch\/?start=1042630901&amp;count=1\">binding technologies like HTCs or XBL<\/q>.<\/p>\n\n<p>Right now XHTML2 is a science experiment, just like <span title=\"darn, can't find the link\">publishing a weblog in RSS with embedded HTML<\/span> (instead of the other way around, published as a separate page).  It&#8217;s changeable, and changing; it&#8217;s been in the works already for <a title=\"an October 2000 post referencing XHTML 2.0\" href=\"http:\/\/lists.w3.org\/Archives\/Public\/wai-tech-comments\/2000Oct\/0005\">more than two years<\/a>, and will be for <a href=\"http:\/\/www.w3.org\/MarkUp\/xhtml-roadmap\/#schedule\">at least two more<\/a>.<\/p>\n\n<p>Ian points out, correctly, that <q cite=\"http:\/\/ln.hixie.ch\/?start=1042630901&amp;count=1\">[the] fact that xHTML2 won&#8217;t be widely used before the end of the decade is not a problem. For some reason, the Internet populous has this strange idea that if something isn&#8217;t adopted overnight, it must be a failure.<\/q>   Perhaps eventually I&#8217;ll think <a title=\"A warning to others\" href=\"http:\/\/diveintomark.org\/archives\/2002\/11\/21.html#a_warning_to_others\"><cite>it&#8217;s a pain in the ass with no demonstrable benefit<\/cite><\/a> (NB: I realize that&#8217;s a comment on XHTML 1.1, not XHTML 2).  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